[IP] One Internet provider's view of FBI's CALEA wiretap push

Thomas Shaddack shaddack at ns.arachne.cz
Fri Apr 23 11:51:09 PDT 2004


On Fri, 23 Apr 2004, John Kelsey wrote:

> The obvious problem with multiple levels of passwords and data is: When
> does the guy with the rubber hose stop beating passwords out of you?
> After he gets one?  Yeah, that's plausible, if he's convinced there's
> only one.  But once he's seen a second hidden level, why will he ever
> believe there's not a third, fourth, etc.?  The same calculation
> applies to a judge or district attorney.  He *knows* (even if he's
> wrong) that there's evidence of kiddie-porn, drug dealing, etc., in
> there somewhere.  He knows you've given up two passwords.  Why is he
> ever going to let you out of jail, or ever going to reduce the charges
> down to something a normal human might live long enough to serve out
> the time for?

This serves a purpose as well.

Why would you ever cooperate if you can't expect much from the deal
anyway?





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