[IP] One Internet provider's view of FBI's CALEA wiretap push

[Thomas Shaddack]

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004, Major Variola (ret) wrote:

> At 12:09 PM 4/22/04 +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
> >
> >Are you truly expecting a worldwide ban on encryption? How do you prove
> >somebody is using encryption on a steganographic channel?
>
> Torture, of the sender, receiver, or their families, has worked pretty
> well.
> If you're good you don't even leave marks.

However, it's not entirely reliable. At some point, the suspect tells you
what you want to hear, whether or not it is the truth, just so you leave
him alone. It can even happen that the suspect convinces himself that what
he really did what he was supposed to do.

Of course, the solved-crimes statistics doesn't care about this subtle
difference.

This brings another ofren underestimated problem into the area of
cryptosystem design, the "rubberhose resistance".