Gmail as Blacknet (legally required forgetting)

Tyler Durden camera_lumina at hotmail.com
Sat Apr 10 08:18:31 PDT 2004


>I don't know about your anecdote, but Mr. May's original point
>was that the law *requires* companies to forget.   Which is
>of course an illegitimate intrusion of the state into private affairs.

Well, this is not well understood by those outside the credit world.

What the law actually states is (basically) a defaulted loan must be 
forgiven after seven years. In other words, it is illegal to continue to 
attempt to collect on a loan, 7 years after the default.

However, it is perfectly legal to remember that an individual failed to pay 
back a loan. In practice, this means that a large brand-name Credit Card 
company can choose not to send an offer to someone that defaulted 10 years 
ago. Of course, they can't dunn that person anymore, but they don't have to 
offer a card. I know without any doubt that there is at least one that does 
this, and it's not like the Feds wouldn't notice!

>And the responsibles need killing.

Well, in a lot of cases I agreed with May's sentiment, even if I'm not 
entirely sure this would do much. However, as for putting the Jews and 
blacks up chimneys, well add to that what appears to be an almost State 
Corporatism stance, and there's a discernable vector there...look up 
"Boehrman Flight Capital Organization" and I'm still not convinced the 
resemblance is coincidental.

But those are side issues. At least, aside from the technical content, I 
still view May's harshest rantings as a sort of Fredom of Speech acid 
test...if one would try to forcibly or legally shut him down, then one 
probably "needs killing".

-TD







>From: "Major Variola (ret)" <mv at cdc.gov>
>To: "cypherpunks at al-qaeda.net" <cypherpunks at al-qaeda.net>
>Subject: RE: Gmail as Blacknet (legally required forgetting)
>Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 20:35:47 -0700
>
>At 05:16 PM 4/9/04 -0400, Tyler Durden wrote:
> >(As an aside, although debt has to be -forgiven- after 7 years,
>contrary to
> >popular belief it is not true that a debt has to be -forgotten-...I
>know of
> >one credit major card company that will not accept 'new' cardmembers
>that
> >didn't pay back what they owed, even if that's 15 years ago. That's
>actually
> >perfectly legal.)
>
>I don't know about your anecdote, but Mr. May's original point
>was that the law *requires* companies to forget.   Which is
>of course an illegitimate intrusion of the state into private affairs.
>
>And the responsibles need killing.
>
>Ahhh, that feels better.
>
>-----
>"When I was your age we didn't have Tim May! We had to be paranoid
>on our own! And we were grateful!" --Alan Olsen
>
>

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