Responding to orders which include a secrecy requirement

[Sunder]

In that case, I would suspect the ISP itself would have incoming/outgoing
feeds from other ISP's.  If that single moral objector ISP refuses to
allow carnivores, the other, not quite as moral ISP's might be persuaded
to allow it, in which case the fedZ get what they want, just one
traceroute hop further up the chain.  Perhaps not all of them, but perhaps
enough of them...  Duh!

That's the thing about the internet - your packets must travel through
other ISP's (unless you're communicating with other nodes hosted by that
single ISP which is unlikely).  From the fedZ point of view, you need not
tap each and every single ISP.  You can tap upstream, and still get the
data without tipping off the target, or his moral objector friends at her
ISP.

At some point every ISP goes through MCI, Sprint, and AT&T, and don't
forget the local (phone company) loops.

Assuming that such a moral objector ISP would exist, it would be foolish
to assume that it would provide much of a measure of protection against
tapping cleartext transmissions.  Hence, encryption is important.  Want
privacy and security?  It's up to you to provide it: encrypt.


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On Sun, 31 Aug 2003, Steve Schear wrote:

> Well maybe.  What if a US ISP is incorporated with all foreign residents 
> and no local employees (only trusted local contractors).  No one to serve 
> legal notice upon.  ISP is housed in a standalone building which is owned 
> outright (no landlord to serve).  Site is monitored 24/7 via Internet and 
> satellite links with remote controlled self-destruct devices (which to be 
> effective must be capable of destroying the entire building).