e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld)

Tyler Durden camera_lumina at hotmail.com
Wed Nov 26 14:36:34 PST 2003


Doesn't make sense.

Votes are already bought and sold, but there's so many middle men taking 
their cuts in the form of military bases or whatnot that the enduser barely 
gets some.

-TD


>From: Tim May <timcmay at got.net>
>To: cypherpunks at lne.com
>Subject: Re: e voting (receipts, votebuying, brinworld)
>Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 09:18:42 -0800
>
>On Nov 26, 2003, at 8:10 AM, BillyGOTO wrote:
>>>
>>>I have no problem with this free choice contract.
>>
>>You can't sell your vote for the same reason that Djinni don't
>>grant wishes for "more wishes".
>
>A silly comment. I take it you're saying "Because the rules don't allow 
>it." Or something similar to this.
>
>The "rules" are precisely what we are discussing.
>
>And "vote buying" is much more widespread than what happens at the lowest 
>level we happen to be talking about here, where Alice is paid $10 to vote 
>for some particular candidate. In fact, vote buying is much more common and 
>more dangerous at the level of political representatives.
>
>Appealing to "the rules" (what your Djinni state as the rules) is 
>nonproductive. Payoffs and kickbacks can be declared illegal, but they 
>continue to happen in various ways.
>
>
>>
>>>You, in the rest of your comments, show yourself to be one of the many
>>>tens of millions who probably need to be sent up the chimneys for their
>>>crimes.
>>>
>>>Liberty's a mental chore, isn't it?
>>
>>Maybe I just don't understand Liberty.  I need to meditate on it for a
>>while.  I'll use your image of tens of millions of "criminals" going up
>>in smoke (myself included) as a starting point.
>>
>>PS: Is support of vote buying consistent with rejection of Democracy?
>>
>
>Liberty is characterized in the .sig below:
>
>
>""Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. 
>Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote!"
>-- Ben Franklin

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