Fake News for Big Brother

Justin justin at soze.net
Fri May 2 06:15:16 PDT 2003


At 2003-05-02 02:56 +0000, Steve Schear wrote:

> Funny thing about the 14th, the representatives of the Southern States (who 
> had previously been sworn in and seated for the session) didn't get to vote 
> on it.  They were ejected and the doors barred (the Senate even barred a 
> New Jersey rep. who held the deciding vote and was strongly opposed to the 
> measure).  They then reported that the majority (of those in the room) 
> approved the measure, which was sent on to the states for ratification.  A 
> similar travesty played out in the counting of ratifying states and 
> reporting out the results.  When challenged in the Supreme Court the robed 
> ones punted, saying it was a "political matter for Congress to 
> decide".  Thus spake Tyranny.

That may be so, but stories abound of drunk state legislators,
corruption, bribery, and other shenanigans involved in the ratification
of every Amendment from the Reconstruction up to the point people became
serious about doing the Right Thing (tm) with stuff like female suffrage
and the repeal of the prohibition amendment.  There are serious
questions about the validity, specifically, of the 16th, 17th, and 18th
amendments, and it is quite clear that even were there no trickery
involved in the passage of the civil rights amendments, Confederate
States were required to ratify them as a condition for re-joining (read
cessation of occupation) the Union.

Just like the 16th, if someone got a serious opposition movement going
against the 14th, Congress and the States would quickly ratify an
amendment authorizing ex-post-facto law in the specific instance in
question (and probably for all the Amendments that were questionably
ratified so they'd only have to deal with it once), and a follow-on
amendment similar to the 14th which would have effects retroactive to
the "ratification" of the 14th.

-- 
Freedom's untidy, and free people are free to make mistakes and commit
crimes and do bad things.  They're also free to live their lives and do
wonderful things.   --Rumsfeld, 2003-04-11





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