Idea: The ultimate CD/DVD auditing tool

Tyler Durden camera_lumina at hotmail.com
Tue Jul 8 07:01:04 PDT 2003


Nobody wrote...

"There is a loss of quality if you go through an analog stage.  Real and
wannabe audiophiles will prefer the real thing, pure and undiluted by
a reconversion phase.  These are the people who are already swallowing
the marketing line that the CD bandwidth limit of 22KHz is too low for
good fidelity, despite being higher than they can hear."

I'm in that category. And as someone who basically grew up in Carnegie Hall 
and the Metropolitan Opera, I trust my ears (I saw the opera Wozzeck twice 
by the time I was 17).

There are engineering reasons for this that I'm willing to discuss, though 
the discussion will be tedious for engineers, and impossible to understand 
for non-engineers. Far easier will be for you to go and listen
to a CD player that can upsample standard CD to 24bits/196kHz. The 
difference is not by any means subtle.

As an audiophile (Krell+Levinson+Thiel gear at home), I definitely don't 
want to grab an analog signal. Doing that the signal is sure to retain 
characteristics of the extracting gear. But the vast majority of P2P kids 
won't care one iota that their file was analog for half a second.

-TD


>From: Nomen Nescio <nobody at dizum.com>
>To: cypherpunks at lne.com
>Subject: Re: Idea: The ultimate CD/DVD auditing tool
>Date: Tue,  8 Jul 2003 08:40:01 +0200 (CEST)
>
>Major Variola writes:
>
> > Any human-consumable (analogue) input is readily recordable with
> > a single, one-time ADC, and thereafter is toast.  DRM is a fraud
> > perpetrated by engineers on Hollywood suits.  Good for employment
> > though.
>
>There is a loss of quality if you go through an analog stage.  Real and
>wannabe audiophiles will prefer the real thing, pure and undiluted by
>a reconversion phase.  These are the people who are already swallowing
>the marketing line that the CD bandwidth limit of 22KHz is too low for
>good fidelity, despite being higher than they can hear.
>
>Consider how much more wine from Champagne is worth than that from a
>village just outside of the appelation limits.  People want to feel
>that they are getting the authentic goods, and they'll pay for them.
>That's what the RIAA is counting on.

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