Denver Post article on mattd/proffr/AP/Jim Bell/cypherpunks

Steve Furlong sfurlong at
Mon Jul 7 19:07:21 PDT 2003

On Monday 07 July 2003 19:58, Tyler Durden wrote:

> >"The bottom line is what the victim feels," he said. "Is the victim
> >threatened? Is the victim alarmed? >Hey, that's a crime."
> Interesting logic here. Someone writes something not-so-nice about
> somebody on a list and now that person is being "cyberstalked" even
> though they're not a subscriber. And now, the stalk-ee is a victim of
> a crime. And now the person who said something "not-so-nice" has
> committed a crime.

That standard is used increasingly often. I've had it used against me, 
more than a decade ago. Just fit this in with "conspiracy" and 
"attempt" and other fuzzy crimes; they're good for prosecutors because 
they don't demand hard evidence and juries in practice tend to side 
with the prosecution. ("If he didn't commit the crime, they wouldn't 
have arrested him.")

Welcome to the new thought crime, where you don't even have to have 
thought the forbidden, thought; it's enough that someone thinks you 
thought it.

> Funny enough, I don't rmember seeing any of Prof Rat's posts, and
> I've never even killfiled him.

Many of the nodes filter out mattd/proffr's posts. I think Jim Choate's 
node (see delivers his posts, along with 
viagra ads and other garbage.

Steve Furlong    Computer Condottiere   Have GNU, Will Travel

"If someone is so fearful that, that they're going to start using
their weapons to protect their rights, makes me very nervous that
these people have these weapons at all!"  -- Rep. Henry Waxman

More information about the cypherpunks-legacy mailing list