Denver Post article on mattd/proffr/AP/Jim Bell/cypherpunks

Tyler Durden camera_lumina at
Mon Jul 7 16:58:24 PDT 2003

>"The posts made by Professor Rat fall under a relatively new category of 
>crime known >as "cyberstalking," >said Jim Doyle, a retired New York City 
>police sergeant who now works as a >cybercrimes consultant for a 
> >Connecticut company called Internet Crimes.

>The statements made by Professor Rat constitute prosecutable offenses, he 

>"The bottom line is what the victim feels," he said. "Is the victim 
>threatened? Is the victim alarmed? >Hey, that's a crime."

Interesting logic here. Someone writes something not-so-nice about somebody 
on a list and now that person is being "cyberstalked" even though they're 
not a subscriber. And now, the stalk-ee is a victim of a crime. And now the 
person who said something "not-so-nice" has committed a crime.

And this guy's a consultant? To whom, I wonder...

Funny enough, I don't rmember seeing any of Prof Rat's posts, and I've never 
even killfiled him.


>From: Declan McCullagh <declan at>
>To: cypherpunks at
>Subject: Denver Post article on mattd/proffr/AP/Jim Bell/cypherpunks
>Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2003 17:03:54 -0400
>The development of digital money, and encryption software restricting 
>government's ability to monitor Internet activity, are common goals among 
>the online anarchists and libertarians known as "cypherpunks."
>The ultimate purpose of Assassination Politics is to deter people from 
>working for government agencies, corporate media outlets or institutions 
>"beholden to the violence of the state," Taylor said.
>Professor Rat also has threatened a University of Ottawa law professor, a 
>columnist for The Boston Globe and a Cincinnati police officer.
>The Post is withholding the names of the subjects of posts by Professor Rat 
>to avoid promoting any specific threats.
>Eugene Volokh, a law professor at the University of California-Los Angeles 
>and a First Amendment specialist, said the threats were probably criminal, 
>given Taylor's description of the purpose of Assassination Politics.

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