Idea: The ultimate CD/DVD auditing tool

Tyler Durden camera_lumina at
Mon Jul 7 16:39:47 PDT 2003

Do you have a reference? I don't remember reading that SACD was encrypted. 
What I DO remember is that the reason there's no standard SACD or DVD-A 
digital interface is because the Industry wants that digital interface to be 


>From: Nomen Nescio <nobody at>
>To: cypherpunks at
>Subject: Re: Idea: The ultimate CD/DVD auditing tool
>Date: Mon,  7 Jul 2003 07:30:05 +0200 (CEST)
>Thomas Shaddup writes:
> > As a welcomed side effect, not only we'd get a device for circumvention 
> > just about any contemporary (and possibly a good deal of the future 
> > optical media "protections"
>This is only for the minimal forms of "protection" which are designed to
>work with existing CD/DVD players.   If you look at the new audio formats
>like SACD, they use encrypted data.  All your lasers won't do you any
>good unless you can pry a key (and the algorithm!) out of a consumer
>player, which won't be easy assuming it is in a tamper-resistant unit.
>And you can bet the industry won't make the mistake again of allowing
>software-based players, as they did with the DeCSS affair.
>In short, you're fighting yesterday's war.  Try looking ahead a bit to
>see where the battlegrounds of the future will be contested.

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