Forced Oaths to Pieces of Cloth

Bill Frantz frantz at
Sun Feb 9 10:57:14 PST 2003

At 6:55 AM -0800 2/9/03, Sunder wrote:
>And also freedom of religion.  Forcing someone to say "Under God" for

Back in the dark ages (the 1950s, and don't anyone get nostalgic for them),
when the phrase "under god" was added to the pledge, I was a student in
school.  From what they had taught me, I knew then that this addition
violated the establishment of religion clause.  The solution I devised was
to simply remain silent when this phrase was said.

Unfortunately having started to question the relation between the pledge
and the ideals of the country, I started to wonder why I was pledging to
the flag, instead of the country.  So over the years, I have a somewhat
edited version (removed parts in brackets):

   I pledge allegiance to [the flag of] the United States of America
   [and to the republic for which it stands], one nation [under god],
   indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Except for the fact that one should not trust pledges that are made under
coercion, I am reasonably comfortable with this edited version.  It
expresses the ideal nation that I wish the United States would become.

Cheers - Bill

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