I am anti war. You lot support Saddam

[baudmax23 at earthlink.net]

At 12:20 AM 12/24/2003 -0800, "James A. Donald" <jamesd at echeque.com> wrote:

>     --
>Jamie Lawrence
> > > > As it stands, you seem only capable of attempting to
> > > > impute motives to others that you imagine they might
> > > > hold, based on wildy improbable chains of cause and
> > > > effect in philosophical arguments and obscure cause and
> > > > effect based on international relations in the '60s,
> > > > bundled together with some sort of New American Century
> > > > twine about how if we don't kill all the "ragheads" (your
> > > > words, not mine), we'll be enslaved or worse.
>
>James A. Donald
> > > Liar:
> > >
> > > I did not suggest killing all the ragheads, and in other
> > > forums I have regularly argued against claims about Islam
> > > or arabs that would rationalize and justify such an action.
>
>baudmax23 at earthlink.net Quoting me:
> > "...raghead fanatics should lose, and their way of life
> > perish."
>
>That was the "raghead fanatic way of life should perish."  Not
>"raghead fanatics should perish"

Oh some distinction.... and what if they do not lay down in the dust and 
relinquish their "way of life" as you demand, then you will have no choice 
but to make them perish?  The James A. Donald definition of 
"freedom":  relinquish your way of life, or else....?


>baudmax23 at earthlink.net
> > Funny, then, and quite logically inconsistent, that this
> > thread is titled "I am antiwar...".  I have not seen anything
> > evidencing "antiwar: mentality from you,
>
>I am anti war:  You are pro war.  Just that you are backing the
>side in the war that wants to kill me.

If it was up to me, we wouldn't be in this war, we'd have spent it on 
alternative energy instead.  I think with $150+ Billion we'd have made 
progress on that front, thereby negating any "need" we have for Mideast oil.

The mentality of people like you endangers us ALL, both here in "the 
homeland" as well as innocents abroad.  That is the real message here which 
you have refused to hear, instead advocating continuation of the policies 
which have led us here.  Policies based on well established and documented 
history of which you are both ignorant and in denial of.

I hope you feel safer this Christmas, with your Code Orange.  Oh yeah, but 
how can that be, I mean, aren't we safer now that that evil dictator Saddam 
has been captured?!  hah hah hah sure we are.  And all along we should have 
been focusing on Bin Laden and Al Qaeda who are the real threats.  Oh well, 
what's $150B worth of military and intelligence resources...

-Max


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