I am anti war. You stupid evil scum are pro Saddam.

Justin justin-cypherpunks at soze.net
Sat Dec 20 22:36:57 PST 2003


proclus at gnu-darwin.org (2003-12-21 03:50Z) wrote:

> I don't know who you are referring too, but that comment is amusing,
> because it is exactly the kind of lambaste broadside that one hears on
> Faux news channel all the time.  Anyway, I say that Saddam has human
> rights, just like everyone else, which includes due process, right to
> counsel, and to face your accusers in an open court that has legitimate
> authority to find you innocent or guilty.  The US is clearly and
> wrongly doing the opposite of this, and if this makes me pro-Saddam,
> then I will wear the label proudly.  

How can we offer him procedural guarantees enjoyed by U.S. residents
when we won't be the ones conducting procedure at his trial?  He's going
to be tried in the ICC or by Iraqis in Iraqi courts.  We have no good
evidence that he's committed crimes against Americans, and unless we
find some, I don't think that anyone would want him anywhere near a
Federal courtroom.

McRumsfeld and co. should be held accountable if they violate the Geneva
Convention with respect to Saddam or any other prisoner.  But the
procedural guarantees you talk about are attached to U.S. trials, which
Saddam will not enjoy (or dread, depending...).

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