Quarantines may be justified

[Harmon Seaver]

On Sat, Apr 19, 2003 at 05:22:42PM -0400, david wrote:
> On Saturday 19 April 2003 16:46, Harmon Seaver  wrote:
> 
> >(snip)
> > Private property is purely a construct of Euro culture, at least
> > in this hemisphere. Who owned the whole fucking continent when
> > the eurotrash expatriates hit the east coast? You really think
> > you *own* a piece of Mother Earth? Guess again when that volcano
> > erupts underneath it.
> 
> The concept of, and respect for private property are essential 
> elements of individual liberty.  They cannot be separated.  There 
> is an inverse proportion between the power the governments have 
> over private property and freedom.

      So the native americans here before 1492 weren't free? They did, of
course, have private property -- whatever they could carry with them -- but the
land was held in common. The idea that individuals could "own" land was not
known to them. 

> 
> > > Any individual who enforces, or any politician who votes for a
> > > law that uses force to regulate behavior is guilty of
> > > initiating force against anyone affected by the law (snip)
> >
> > (snip) "using force to regulate behavior" is wrong? Like if some
> > shithead tries to rob me I can't "regulate" their behavior? Or my
> > village can't hire a professional "regulator" to deal with
> > robbers? Or for that matter, to "regulate" people who smoke in
> > public?
> 
> It is the initiation of force that is wrong.  People who try to rob 
> others should have their behavior regulated by being killed by 
> their intended victims. 

   You're right, and it's really too bad the indigs here didn't realize soon
enough that they needed to kill each and everyone of those euros who landed here
and thought they could "own" land. 

> Hiring professionals to deal with robbers 
> is a valid response to the robbers' initiation of force.  Killing 
> people who use force to regulate individuals who smoke in public is 
> also a legitimate response to the their initiation of force.
> 

   People can smoke in public if they wear some sort of helmet which contains
all the smoke, otherwise they are using force to invade my body and I should
have the right to kill them for it.


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Harmon Seaver	
CyberShamanix
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