Who represents the detained? Nobody...

[measl at mfn.org]

On Mon, 15 Oct 2001, Tim May wrote:

> The Constitution applies at _all_ times. It is not something that is 
> only for nice, calm situations.

Really?  What country are _you_ living in? ;-)

> The Bill of Rights does not say that the various parts of the Bill of 
> Rights are suspendable when someone decides there is some reason to.

Correct.  That is a "power" reserved for LEAs and other vermin.
 
> This means the USA Bill, with its suspension of big chunks of the Fourth 
> Amendment, is ipso facto unconstitutional.

And you can bet your ass the supreme court could care less...
 
> My belief is that every Congresscritter who voted to pass this USA Bill 
> should be tried and executed.

Amen.
 
> As for the 600 "Arabic-looking" men (maybe a few women, I don't know) 
> being held without charges being filed in a timely way, I'll chortle if 
> even 10 of them become vengeance-seekers in the next 10 years.
> 
> Someone held unjustly, without charges being filed, is morally obliged 
> to kill his oppressors.

Again, A-Fucking-Men!

> --Tim May, Citizen-unit of of the once free United States
> " The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood 
> of patriots & tyrants. "--Thomas Jefferson, 1787

-- 
Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
sysadmin at mfn.org

If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...
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