Who represents the detained? Nobody...

[Tim May]

On Monday, October 15, 2001, at 06:07 PM, Luthor Blisset wrote:

> At 05:39 PM 10/15/01 -0700, somebody wrote:
>> 5000 people went through a 1000-degree meat grinder
>> on 9/11 without an opportunity for any due process,
>> and don't fucking forget it.
>
>         Do you seriously think that justifies suspension of due 
> process? If you don't, why did you bring it up? That aside, I think 
> it's been sufficiently demonstrated that you shouldn't treat people 
> like collateral damage unless you wish to receive similar 
> consideration...

The Constitution applies at _all_ times. It is not something that is 
only for nice, calm situations.

The Bill of Rights does not say that the various parts of the Bill of 
Rights are suspendable when someone decides there is some reason to. 
This means the USA Bill, with its suspension of big chunks of the Fourth 
Amendment, is ipso facto unconstitutional.

My belief is that every Congresscritter who voted to pass this USA Bill 
should be tried and executed.

As for the 600 "Arabic-looking" men (maybe a few women, I don't know) 
being held without charges being filed in a timely way, I'll chortle if 
even 10 of them become vengeance-seekers in the next 10 years.

Someone held unjustly, without charges being filed, is morally obliged 
to kill his oppressors.


--Tim May, Citizen-unit of of the once free United States
" The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood 
of patriots & tyrants. "--Thomas Jefferson, 1787