WH = FBI = VP

Fearghas McKay fearghas at mac.com
Sat Oct 13 15:43:15 PDT 2001


At 6:11 pm -0700 13/10/01, John Young wrote:
>That's correct, the trace legend says for both:
>
>  "It is a HTTP server (running AkamaiGHost)."
>
>But why seemingly terminate in Los Angeles? Is that a cloaking
>device? Usually when a final hop is blocked VisualRoute reports
>the block, but not in these cases. Both traces' final two hops:

more probably an Akamai thing as they guess how close you are to one of their boxes.

from my UK netblock I get

  2  YYY  YYY      0.042    212.20.242.1     212.20.242.1
  3  YYY  YYY      0.041    195.97.221.121   olivefe1-0.onyx.net
  4  YYY  YYY      0.056    195.97.199.73    willows2-1.onyx.net
  5  YYY  YYY      0.055    195.66.224.77    gigabitethernet5-0.linx1.lon1.level3.net
  6  YYY  YYY      0.058    212.113.0.114    pos8-0.core1.london1.level3.net
  7  YYY  YYY      0.052    212.187.131.39   gigabitethernet11-0.ipcolo1.london1.level3.net
  8  YYY  YYY      0.052    212.187.244.15   212.187.244.15

using IPNet Monitor

and

from my US block:

3  gige-g9-0.gsr12012.sjc.he.net (216.218.130.1)  5.887 ms  5.991 ms  11.662 ms
 4  pbnap.akamaitech.net (198.32.128.61)  7.032 ms  6.794 ms  7.090 ms
 5  208.184.83.198.akamai.com (208.184.83.198)  7.732 ms  7.263 ms  7.326 ms

using Unix tracroute

>209.244.10.42 | gigabitethernet6-0.ipcolo1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net | Los
>Angeles, CA |
>63.215.64.30 | www.whitehouse.gov | [no location shown] |
>
>209.244.10.42 | gigabitethernet6-0.ipcolo1.LosAngeles1.Level3.net | Los
>Angeles, CA |
>63.215.64.30 | www.fbi.gov | [no location shown] |
>
>The final IP address does not appear in a DNS lookup for either
>of the .gov domains. Whitehouse.gov pulls up the Executive Office
>of the President, and fbi.gov an FBI information processing
>office.

This was being discussed recently on the NANOG list, http://www.nanog.org/, North American Operators Group, not specifically in relation to whitehouse.gov but the principles will be the same.

>Is that Praha CZ, or Praha AR?

Praha CZ - the RIPE meeting was there last week, http://www.ripe.net/, equivalent to ARIN & NANOG in Europe, Middle East and N Africa.

	f

>
>Fergus McKay wrote:
> >I believe that they have been Akamai'd - based on conversations in
> >Praha last week with their guys.





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