Safeweb Hotmail Question

[James B. DiGriz]

James B. DiGriz wrote:

> Luthor Blisset wrote:
> 
>> At 12:08 PM 10/13/01 -0400, somebody with the password to 
>> jbdigriz at dragonsweb.org wrote:
>>
>>> You're last paragraph's supposition is interesting, but the whole 
>>> RIAA thing looks more like an rtmark action, maybe. Which would be 
>>> funded  from within the ranks of 
>>> Disney-Sony-AOL/TimeWarner-IG-Coca-Farben et al. Not DOD/CIA.
>>
>>
>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> You want to some see devious shit, check out rtmark. This is the 
>>> cointelpro arm of the bait-and-switch artists who give us RATM and 
>>> the Matrix on the one hand, and DMCA et al. on the other.
>>
>>
>>
>>>         Exactly how, pray tell, do you figure that rtmark (and i 
>>> presume you mean the rtmark.com people) has any relationship to 
>>> Disney-Sony-AOL/TimeWarner-IG-Coca-Farben-et-al other then one of 
>>> near-violent opposition?
>>
>>
>>         Last time I checked, rtmark made some of the most clever 
>> anti-corporate propaganda I've ever seen. I'm extremely skeptical of 
>> any claims that they are part of what they seem to so diligently oppose.
>>
>> -- Luthor //Remembering is copying and copying is THEFT
>>
>>
> 
> I'm digging around for the copy of the "Deconstructing Beck" spam that I 
> archived somewhere, which clearly lists a Geffen publicist encouraging, 
> and I quote, "ripping off" the aforesaid artist, whose ROI was 
> apparently slipping at the time. '97, I think.
> 
> Maybe that was a hoax, too, but that's the kind of thing that can get 
> you hoist by your own petard.
> 
> jbdigriz
> 
> 

Ok, I can't find it right now, but there are copies of a slightly 
different press release you can find with Google. Including the one at

http://www.gatt.org/deconstructingbeck.html

This one lists the publicist at the bottom only, with a disavowal of 
connection (yeah, right), whereas the email I got listed him in a 
letterhead area at the top.

The whole thing was obviously bought and paid for by Geffen as a 
promotion. "Nobody is listening to Beck [no shit] so let's con the rubes 
into thinking they're "liberating" his work and helping to crush the 
evuuul corporations. At $5 a copy, of course. How pissed off Geffen, 
Beck, assorted lawyers are, etc."  They are a marketing firm, not 
activists. http://www.gatt.org/pressdb.html lists all the media outlets 
advertising was placed in.

It's a different world since DMCA, though. Happy Fun Oligarchy, 
blissfully, self-righeously forgetful of having started the whole damned 
thing, would no longer be amused at such dangerous and suggestive 
thoughts. Laxity, laxity, laxity! Time to cool some jets.  Would 
somebody as cheerfully amoral as rtmark perpetrate a helpful hoax to 
discredit the opposition? You tell me.

jbdigriz

ps. I think you'll find that gatt.org does not actually belong to the 
actual WTO, either. That I know of, that is.