First Polygraphs and Then Torture?

measl at mfn.org measl at mfn.org
Tue Nov 6 09:03:32 PST 2001



> At 12:09 AM 11/6/01 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote:
> >On Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 05:05:03PM -0800, Meyer Wolfsheim wrote:
> >> Who decides what is "cruel and unusual"?
> >
> >Well, hell, who decides what "speech" is, or "religion," or a firearm?
> >(Is Politech speech, is Scientology a religion, is a stun gun a
> firearm?)

According to new federal laws, a non-lethal stun gun *is* in fact a
firearm.  Supposedly enacted specifically to keep felons from stun-guns,
it seems geared more towards keeping the populace from self-defence.

Note also that the latest version of the stun gun, the first truly useful
one, can only be sold to law enforcement officers, and not the public.


-- 
Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
sysadmin at mfn.org

If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...
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