Censorhappy MFN.org syadmin files "spam" complaint

[J.A. Terranson]

Declan,

	If you'll look closely at the addresses to which my complaint was
mailed, you will note that it was directed to "broadwing.net" which is the
luser's ISP, and uu.net, the upstream NSP for broadwing: unless you also
have broadwing as your upstream provider, it should have been pretty
obvious that my complaint - oops, I'm sorry, my *censorship* - was not
directed at you.

	Yes, I hit the forward button on the wrong email within the
thread, and for any confusion, I apologize, however, it was pretty obvious
to *everyone* but you who the complaint was directed against.  

	As for being "censorhappy": shouldn't a	*journalist* do a little
more homework before (a) making such a sweeping declaration, and (b) using
his media access in such a directed and vindictive manner?  Possibly an
email to ask just what the hell was going on might have been more
appropriate?

	Do your homework: you'll find that I am pretty middle of the road
WRT "Muzzling Spammers".  I make the occassional complaint about the truly
stupid (such as our friend below), but in general, my reputation is that
of an anti-spammer "thorn".  In my experience, the anti-spammers generate
several orders of magnitude more trash with their bitching than the
original spammer did with their spam run.  I personally recieve between
500 and 700 emails a day (between home and offices), of which roughly
2/3rds is spam (a great number of these coming from this very list) - and
you know what?  Hitting "Delete" is just not that big a deal (no matter
*what* Net-Nazis like Vixie have to say).

	Basically Declan, I'm disappointed in you.

Yours,

J.A. Terranson
sysadmin at mfn.org




On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Declan McCullagh wrote:

> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 10:44:39 -0500
> From: Declan McCullagh <declan at well.com>
> To: cypherpunks at cyberpass.net
> Cc: measl at mfn.org, sysadmin at mfn.org
> Subject: Censorhappy MFN.org syadmin files "spam" complaint
> 
> I invite all cypherpunks subscribers to let this censorhappy -- not to
> mention humorless -- sysadmin know what they think about spam
> complaints over a joke posted here:
> "J.A. Terranson" <measl at mfn.org>
> 
> I posted recently, in response to a help-me-spam message:
> > Cypherpunks are well-known providers of Bulk-email HTML spam campaigns.
> > As a "marketing analyst," you've clearly come to the right place.
> 
> And Terranson complained to my upstream provider that I was spamming
> (see message below).
> 
> I will be writing about the censorhappy behavior of Terranson/MFN
> in my next column.
> 
> -Declan
> 
> > > From measl at mfn.org  Thu Mar 29 13:58:18 2001
> > > Received: from imr1.ash.ops.us.uu.net by iaremedy.corp.us.uu.net with
> ESMTP
> > > (peer crosschecked as: imr1.ash.ops.us.uu.net [153.39.43.46])
> > > id QQkimd20740
> > > for <iaremedy-mail-spooler at iaremedy.corp.us.uu.net>; Thu, 29 Mar 2001
> 13:58:12 -0500 (EST)
> > > Received: from cmr2.ash.ops.us.uu.net by imr1.ash.ops.us.uu.net with
> ESMTP
> > > (peer crosschecked as: cmr2.ash.ops.us.uu.net [198.5.241.40])
> > > id QQkimd22603
> > > for <abuse at uu.net>; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:59:05 GMT
> > > Received: from cliff.mfn.org by cmr2.ash.ops.us.uu.net with ESMTP
> > > (peer crosschecked as: cliff.mfn.org [204.238.179.8])
> > > id QQkimd24648
> > > for <abuse at uu.net>; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 18:59:05 GMT
> > > Received: from greeves.mfn.org (greeves.mfn.org [204.238.179.3])
> > > by cliff.mfn.org (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2TIw7j10180;
> > > Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:58:12 -0600 (CST)
> > > (envelope-from measl at mfn.org)
> > > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 12:58:07 -0600 (CST)
> > > From: "J.A. Terranson" <measl at mfn.org>
> > > To: abuse at broadwing.net
> > > cc: abuse at uu.net
> > > Subject: Your downstream spammer...
> > > Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0103291257260.10465-110000 at greeves.mfn.org>
> > > MIME-Version: 1.0
> > > Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1599177482-985892287=:10465"
> > >
> > >   This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable
> text,
> > >   while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware
> tools.
> > >   Send mail to mime at docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info.
> > >
> > > --0-1599177482-985892287=:10465
> > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
> > >
> > >
> > > Please muzzle this idjit...
> > >
> > > --
> > > Yours,
> > > J.A. Terranson
> > > sysadmin at mfn.org
> > >
> > > If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings,
> they
> > > should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
> > > Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
> > > unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
> > > the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and
> > > elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
> > > populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb
> electorate...
> > > This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
> > > as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist
> Republics.
> > >
> > > The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
> > > associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
> > > those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
> > > first place...
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> > > --0-1599177482-985892287=:10465
> > > Content-Type: MESSAGE/RFC822; CHARSET=US-ASCII
> > > Content-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0103291257290.10465 at greeves.mfn.org>
> > > Content-Description: Re: CDR: Required- Direct e-mail(Bulk) service
> (fwd)
> > >
> > > Return-Path: <owner-cypherpunks-outgoing at ssz.com>
> > > Received: from einstein.ssz.com (einstein.ssz.com [204.96.2.99])
> > > by cliff.mfn.org (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2TG9Ej09880
> > > for <measl at mfn.org>; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:09:14 -0600 (CST)
> > > (envelope-from owner-cypherpunks-outgoing at ssz.com)
> > > Received: (from mdom at localhost)
> > > by einstein.ssz.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA18391
> > > for cypherpunks-outgoing; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:14:05 -0600
> > > Received: from cluebot.com ([216.110.36.217])
> > > by einstein.ssz.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA18387
> > > for <cypherpunks at einstein.ssz.com>; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:14:02 -0600
> > > Received: by cluebot.com (Postfix, from userid 502)
> > > id D39A9104F1; Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:42:29 -0500 (EST)
> > > Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 10:42:29 -0500
> > > From: Declan McCullagh <declan at well.com>
> > > To: Ganesh Acharya <GaneshA at icode.com>
> > > Cc: cypherpunks at einstein.ssz.com
> > > Subject: Re: CDR: Required- Direct e-mail(Bulk) service
> > > Message-ID: <20010329104229.C1266 at cluebot.com>
> > > Mail-Followup-To: Ganesh Acharya <GaneshA at icode.com>,
> > > cypherpunks at einstein.ssz.com
> > > References: <209D3E0ACB34D41198280050BAAB9F99BD54EA at EXBANGALORE>
> > > Mime-Version: 1.0
> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
> > > Content-Disposition: inline
> > > User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i
> > > In-Reply-To: <209D3E0ACB34D41198280050BAAB9F99BD54EA at EXBANGALORE>; from
> GaneshA at icode.com on Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 05:48:17PM +0530
> > > X-News-Site: http://www.wired.com/
> > > X-URL: http://www.mccullagh.org/
> > > Sender: owner-cypherpunks at ssz.com
> > > Precedence: bulk
> > > Reply-To: cypherpunks at ssz.com
> > > X-Mailing-List: cypherpunks at ssz.com
> > > X-Unsubscription-Info: http://einstein.ssz.com/cdr
> > > X-List-Admin: list at ssz.com
> > > X-Loop: ssz.com
> > > X-Acceptable-Languages: English, Russian, German, French, Spanish
> > >
> > >
> > > Cypherpunks are well-known providers of Bulk-email HTML spam campaigns.
> > > As a "marketing analyst," you've clearly come to the right place.
> > >
> > > -Declan
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 05:48:17PM +0530, Ganesh Acharya wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > We are looking forward to conduct a Bulk e-mail (HTML) campaign
> targeting
> > > > the SMEs and hence a bulk e-mail service provider. In this concern I
> would
> > > > like to know a few details:
> > > > 1) Do you mail HTML mails?
> > > > 2) In the context of the campaign can you host our micro site as until
> the
> > > > campaign gets over?
> > > > 3) Do you provide targeted e-mail addresses targeting the SMEs?
> > > >
> > > > I would appreciate if you can mail me the cost involved and any
> additional
> > > > service you provide in the domain of targeted bulk e-mail campaigns,
> ASAP.
> > > > Thanks.
> > > >
> > > > Ganesh Acharya
> > > > Marketing Analyst - Web
> > > > Icode Inc
> > > > Ph: (703) 934 4700 Ext - 294
> > > > Fx: (703) 934 4708
> > > > mail: ganesha at icode.com
> > > > www.icode.com
> > > >
> > >
> > > --0-1599177482-985892287=:10465--
> >
> 
> 
> ----- End forwarded message -----
> 

-- 
Yours, 
J.A. Terranson
sysadmin at mfn.org

If Governments really want us to behave like civilized human beings, they
should give serious consideration towards setting a better example:
Ruling by force, rather than consensus; the unrestrained application of
unjust laws (which the victim-populations were never allowed input on in
the first place); the State policy of justice only for the rich and 
elected; the intentional abuse and occassionally destruction of entire
populations merely to distract an already apathetic and numb electorate...
This type of demogoguery must surely wipe out the fascist United States
as surely as it wiped out the fascist Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

The views expressed here are mine, and NOT those of my employers,
associates, or others.  Besides, if it *were* the opinion of all of
those people, I doubt there would be a problem to bitch about in the
first place...
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