Did you notice

[Trei, Peter]

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> From: 	Reese[SMTP:reeza at flex.com]
> Reply To: 	Reese
> Sent: 	Monday, March 19, 2001 8:05 PM
> To: 	cypherpunks at cyberpass.net
> Subject: 	Re: Did you notice
> 
> At 10:20 AM 3/19/01 +0000, Ken Brown wrote:
>  >Reese wrote:
>  >
>  >> England serves as a fine example here;
>  >
>  >I'm sure it does, but of what?
> 
> Crime rates.
> 
>  >I think the murder rate in Britain is about 1/6 of what it is in the
>  >USA. (I mean rate, not actual numbers, this is not a 28% paternity
>  >error). And the proportion of people killed accidentally is far lower
>  >here as well.  We are perhaps a fine example of finding ways to live
>  >longer?
> 
> Peter Trei just posted a url to an Economist story, and THIS, lists just
> about everything BUT murder: 
> http://itn.co.uk/news/20010116/britain/06crime.shtml - so what's the rest
> of the story?
> 
> Reese
> 
Well, you could try http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcgvintl.html
While this is on a page advocating gun ownership, the statistics cited
are from non-partisan sources.

For some breakdown of US homicides by race, try 
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a39235bd43dd9.htm
once again, this is a partisan page, but the stats straight from
the US Gov.  (http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/homicide/homtrnd.htm)

This suggests that the US murder rate for whites is about 
3 per 100,000, vs 1.41 (total) for England/Wales

Only about 15% of murders in the US are by strangers, so
if you don't feel that your relatives and acquaintences are
particularly likely to bump you off, the murder rate you worry
about ("How likely am *I* to be killed today?") is very, very
low. Even if it's double the UK rate, doubling a very low number
gives you another very low number.

Doesn't anyone besides myself know how to use a search 
engine, or check numbers before posting?

Peter Trei