[OT] kuro5hin.org || 12 Year Old Girl Commits Suicide After Christian Taunts.

Sampo Syreeni decoy at iki.fi
Sat Mar 17 03:49:29 PST 2001


On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, Andrew Alston wrote:

>The use of hymns to impose psychological tramour on someone else cannot
>indict the hymns themselves, that is total and utter bullshit, is that not
>the same as saying that when someone uses a steak knife to stab someone, the
>person who did the stabbing is responsible as well as the knife?  Total
>utter crap.

Perhaps. On the other hand, it is clear that people attach connotations to
expression based on their experience of where that expression is used. Think
of Carmina Burana after it was used in the Omen, or the associations carried
by heavy metal. E.g. both sorts of music can be used in a movie as a
leitmotif to satanistic themes. Similarly a Goth attire and a suitable
amount of group aggression will likely be as efficient on a child with a
Christian fundamental worldview as a direct threat. And as time goes by,
such connotations may well subsume the original meaning. A good example of
this is what being a skinhead is today and was in the sixties.

If the community at large embraces religious intolerance, Christian chant
may well be the ultimate threat to a young Wicca. If it has a significant
part in an incident leading to teenage suicide, this lends credibility to
the claim that what in other communities might be a legitimate form of
religious self-expression, is in this one used to taunt the misfit. This
gives Christianity the bad face the writer talks about, and gives the
majority an incentive to silence the story.

>They claim persecution due to belief, but at the same time Ive been around
>wiccans, and I would be very very interested to know just how much pushing
>of her beliefs she did on other people, because Ive heard the ridicule of
>Christians that come out of wiccan mouths.

While the few Wiccas I know are introverted enough not to even try. 'Guess
they come in all shapes and sizes, like people tend to.

>but Im interested to hear what she did to incite this, because I seriously
>doubt kids singing hymns at her without either provocation from her or
>alternatively pushing from their teachers/parents.

Huh? Apparently you've never had the treatment; children can be intolerant
as hell. Primary school gave me the most frightening examples of herd
behavior I've *ever* seen.

Sampo Syreeni <decoy at iki.fi>, aka decoy, student/math/Helsinki university





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