content owners vs. ISPs

Jim Choate ravage at ssz.com
Sat Mar 17 09:48:06 PST 2001



It's important to recognize some points,

-	It's a backup system, consider bad weather and emergency
	services. CB radio should be broadened to allow this on
	designated channels for the same sort of reasons.

-	Most people wouldn't be sending heavy packets all the time.

-	It would be useful for large audience broadcast (say a church
	wishing to broadcast voice_over_IP to its immediate neighborhood)

-	Your kids could have a 'neighborhood chat room'.

-	Some sort of encryption is required. (Which will be a lot
	easier sell after the IR search thing is found
	unconstitutional)

-	Maxim is making a 900MHz chip that supports 1Mb/s. Using burst
	and spread spectrum I suspect that a network with suitable
	bandwidth and routing rules couldn't generate more bits than
	it could handle with respect to distance between sites.

On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Ray Dillinger wrote:

> On Sat, 17 Mar 2001, Jim Choate wrote:
> 
> >900MHz packet (<$100/site) coupled with Plan 9 is the base you want to
> >start from using current tech. It will require updating firewall software
> >so that it also handles bandwidth throttling and fail-over routing.
 
> I've looked at that, but I'm unsure about it...  the problem is that 
> if not enough people have it you're out of range - but if too many 
> people have it, you're choked for bandwidth and get interference 
> problems.  
> 
> With a range of a few hundred feet to a few miles, routing can also 
> become problematic. 
> 
> It would be nice though: a $100 'packet box' for each station, that 
> allows you to set up independent IP connections with your neighbors. 
> If you can get them common enough, it would be impossible to cut 
> someone off by cutting their ISP access -- 'cause out in the wild, 
> a packet is a packet is a packet, and if all the stations run IP 
> protocol, even if every ISP in the world rejects a packet, it could 
> still make its way across any continent in short hops from station 
> to station. 
> 
> And this is not just an anti-censorship thing, either; this is 
> more properly a tool for 24/7 uptime for people who can't afford 
> t3's and can't get PacBell's attention to fix their damn line in 
> the first minute after it goes down. I can picture that sales 
> pitch appealing to a lot of home businesses who get cut off from 
> their DSL connection for a week at a time while PacBell pulls its 
> head out of its collective ass. Or Cinci Bell, or Southern Bell, 
> or NTT, or Deutsche Telecomm, or whoever serves their area. 
> 
> I like it.  Every station an ISP. 

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