[RE: American Bar Association - 1 click patents]

LUIS VILDOSOLA lvild at usa.net
Mon Mar 5 10:22:41 PST 2001


Start at the monetary and fiscal system,
whatever you do with the patent system will fall short
to the financial jamming coming from the first two.


"Phillip H. Zakas" <pzakas at toucancapital.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I've been away on business and only now started to read this thread, so
> sorry for the lag...
> 
> The entire patent system needs an overhaul.  I've been personally
struggling
> with the trade-offs of filing for patents (relating to network routing
> technology) vs. keeping the ideas trade secret vs. releasing a subset to
the
> public domain.  My attorneys have suggested filing "blocking patents" as a
> defensive strategy to ensure you can continue to use your technology, in
the
> event a competitor comes up with the same/similar idea.  The patents
> themselves aren't really earth-shattering, but the fact that one has to
file
> for patents just to stay in business in case a competitor files competiting
> claims in the future is extrememly frustrating, because the patent is
> essentially a blueprint for anyone to use the technology for himself.  Here
> are some observations i've made:
> 
> - Determining patent infrigement of technology patents is extremely
> difficult without obtaining the source code of a competitor's product.  How
> on earth can one determine if one is "borrowing" your routing algorithm or
> your mpls variation?  This is almost impossible...so where's the patent
> protection?
> 
> - patent protection varies across the globe.  the best strategy is to file
> in the US, Japan and EU.  but even then the levels of patent protection
vary
> in each area, and offer no defense in countries such as India (used for
many
> outsourced development projects.)
> 
> - I would have preferred it if i could keep an idea a trade secret and
> register that trade secret with the USPTO so that it would be considered
> prior art and thus block future patent claims already covered by my trade
> secret.
> 
> - Biotechnology patents are especially troubling.  On the one hand one can
> patent a gene sequence discovered to be vaguely related to, say, breast
> cancer.  On the other hand that gene sequence is usually derived from some
> volunteer's dna, but that person has no rights to the resulting value of
the
> patent!  Worse still, claims in biotech are very vague and broad simply
> because biotech is an emerging science.  I'd bet most of you haven't heard
> that proteomics seems to becoming more important than genomics over the
last
> six months...does this mean a gene sequence, including all of the proteins
> it interacts with, are covered by the original patent even though
proteomics
> was unknown even two years ago??
> 
> Anyway, this subject is very irritating.  As current venture capitalist
> (temporary until i launch my own start up) I do understand the protection
> patents afford investors and the catalyst patents are for attracting
> capital.  Without capital there would be no interesting technology or
> biotech developments at the rate at which we've enjoyed them over the last
> 50 years.  However even venture capitalists would prefer my "register trade
> secrets" model for high tech projects OVER the current patent system.  I
> still don't know what the right answer is for biotech patents.
> 
> phillip
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-cypherpunks at Algebra.COM
> [mailto:owner-cypherpunks at Algebra.COM]On Behalf Of Jim Choate
> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 1:48 PM
> To: cypherpunks at einstein.ssz.com
> Subject: American Bar Association - 1 click patents
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.abanet.org/journal/mar01/fstate.html
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> 
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> 
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