Automatic's

[Jonathan Wienke]

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I also own a Para-Ordnance P10, a subcompact 1911 variant with a
3-inch barrel, a 2 finger grip (unless you have the Pearce magazine
floorplates with the pinkie rest) and a 10-round magazine. I am fond
of it, and can shoot approximately 2" groups with it at 10 yards. I
think it would be a decent choice for general self-defense, but I
wouldn't really want to use it against an armored opponent since a
.45 ACP's relatively low velocity and large frontal area equate to
poor armor penetration. It is certainly lighter and more concealable
than my Desert Eagle, though.

Of course a MAK-90 with a 75-round drum has merit in a scenario
involving armored home invaders...

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From: cubic-dog [mailto:dog3 at charc.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2001 12:33 PM
To: cypherpunks at einstein.ssz.com
Subject: Re: CDR: RE: Automatic's


On Sat, 9 Jun 2001, David Honig wrote:

> At 04:07 PM 6/8/01 -0700, Jonathan Wienke wrote:
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> >I can fire 9 shots in about 4 seconds and stay in the 9 ring of a
> >B-27 silhouette at 10 yards, and slow fire I can neatly remove the
> >X-ring at the same distance...I don't think it would be a bad
> >option against an armored opponent--2 in the body to knock them on
> >their 
> 
> Yawn.  Take off your glasses, shoot with your off-hand, at pigs
> in flak, then talk to me.


I'ma M1911 man myself. I have fired this weapon in question
and found it quite agreeable. I was pretty amazed. I thought
they were just toys for rich kids. 

However, if you need a rifle, take a rifle. 

For the bulk of that thing, might was well carry
a carbine. 

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