FW: City Tree Rapers

Jim Choate ravage at einstein.ssz.com
Sat Jun 9 22:13:00 PDT 2001



On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 CeejEngine at aol.com wrote:

> Sorry, poor choice of language on my part. True, the bill of rights doesn't 
> actually *assign* rights- it prohibits the federal government from making any 
> laws that restrict them.

...or defining what is or isn't. It isn't the federals business to manage
the individual. It is their business to manage interstate commerce (of
both type), make sure all state governments are 'representative' (if that
doesn't bring the fed's into it nothing else will, how can a state
government be representative if some faction can't speak or they aren't
getting fair legal protection? Interstate commerce, second definition) and
handle foreign interests.

> Reading from amendments 1-10, and the othe articles 
> of the Constitution, the Bill of Rights doesn't apply to the states- and this 
> was legal fact until the passage of the 14th amendment.

Perhaps, but it's incorrect interpretation. For example the 5th and 6th
say 'criminal' not 'federal' or 'state' (there is no specification as in
the 1st as to who can't do it).

To even quible over it is a fundamental abandonment of American Democratic
thought. Consider that one of the fundamental thoughts of 'American
Democratic' theory is 'equal protection under the law'. Consider why this
country revolted from Britian, unequal protection under the law. 

American thought is fundamentaly about 'if it ain't prohibited it's
permitted' and 'it can't be prohibited unless it can be shown to harm
anothers expression of rights (ie life, liberty, & pursuit of happiness)'.
It isn't about 'you can only do what is listed'. That's why we have a list
of things which are meant to not be listed ever(!).

I love current popular American political thought:

"The only way to protect Democracy is to give it up."

And the trains still won't run on time...


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