Mr. Wienke, help me out on this; General Ashcroft m ake his move

air.man at att.net air.man at att.net
Tue Jul 31 13:56:03 PDT 2001


How long do you think NRA management's "Winning" Team 
could continue suckering gun rights supporters into 
sending them $200 MILLION a year if they came out and 
frontally assaulted the right to keep and bear arms, 
rather than gradually undermining it while appearing to 
fight the good fight?

I wish you were right. I wish it was just incompetence.

Russ Howard
www.keepandbeararms.com/howard
 
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> I don't have the magazine in front of me, but if you'd like, I could
> scan the page and send you a JPEG or something like that of it. I
> don't think the NRA is as good a defender of the Second Amendment as
> it could be, and ditto with John Ashcroft, but at least they aren't
> trying to totally nuke our freedoms like Clinton, Janet Reno &
> Handgun Control Incorporated.
> 
> Jonathan Wienke
> 
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard Stevens [mailto:dial911book at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 7:51 AM
> To: Jonathan Wienke; freematt at coil.com
> Cc: George at Orwellian.Org; cypherpunks at cyberpass.net;
> Director at KeepAndBearArms.com; air.man at att.net;
> brian at citizensofamerica.org
> Subject: Mr. Wienke, help me out on this -- Re: FW: General Ashcroft
> make his move
> 
> 
> - --- Jonathan Wienke <JonathanW at gbgcorp.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I get the NRA's American Rifleman magazine. The July
> > issue also has
> > an article about Ashcroft's letter, which does not
> > quote the rather
> > lengthy footnote. However, it does contain a legible
> > image of BOTH
> > pages of the letter, including the ENTIRE text of
> > the footnote. This
> > is hardly the action of an organization bent on
> > distorting Ashcroft's
> > view on the Second Amendment. Stupid editing on the
> > part of the
> > America's First Freedom team, perhaps, but not an
> > organization-wide
> > conspiracy.
> > 
> > Jonathan Wienke
> > 
> 
> Mr. Wienke, 
> 
> I paged through the entire July 2001 issue of American
> Rifleman, and maybe I'm just blind as the proverbial
> bat, but I don't see the article to which you refer
> that quotes the entire Ashcroft letter.  On what page
> is it?
> 
> The July 2001 issue of First Freedom is the one
> featuring the Ashcroft letter -- that I have received
> thus far.
> 
> On the point you raise:  maybe it was merely a bad
> editorial decision for the one magazine.  Fine, and we
> can forgive that.  But, ask this question:  in what
> kind of workplace environment could this kind of
> editing decision be made?  
> 
> Remember that more than one editor had to approve the
> final copy. This is not just a typo.  More than one
> person had to consciously decide to omit relevant
> material without telling the reader.  
> 
> I have to wonder if other sorts of "editing decisions"
> that massage the facts and distort the truth are being
> made ... and we readers don't know it.  
> 
> Maybe it was entirely innocent.  Then NRA should
> promptly apologize, correct it and publish the full
> text in the following issue.  Let's see if they do.  
> 
> - --Richard Stevens
> 
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