Jim Choate's shadow
Duncan Idaho
spam at nukewoody.com
Mon Jul 23 22:38:57 PDT 2001
Long ago, I killfiled Mr CHoate. Once in a while, though, my inbox is
filled with dreck, of which Jim in the indirect origin. Really guys, for
the amount of noise Jim adds to the list, there are several of you who seem
to amplify it nicely. I can "slot filter" Mr Choate via killfile, but the
reverberation (which I can't filter) is becoming deafening.
Woody (a lurker)
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>From: Tim May <tcmay at got.net>
>To: cypherpunks at einstein.ssz.com
>Subject: CDR: Re: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self
defence
>Date: Mon, Jul 23, 2001, 7:08 PM
>
> At 8:35 PM -0500 7/23/01, Jon Beets wrote:
>>Uhhh yes it will go through the safety glass.. Look at the pics.. One person
>>had already put piece of lumber through it.. That was about a 15lb
>>extinguisher... From what I can tell from the photos the protester DID
>>intend harm to the police. Of course none of us were there so its really
>>hard to know the truth..
>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Jim Choate" <ravage at ssz.com>
>>To: <cypherpunks at einstein.ssz.com>
>>Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 6:18 PM
>>Subject: A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Does throwing a fire extenguisher at a auto window constitution probable
>>> cause for lethal force in self-defence?
>>>
>>> No. Because the fire extenguisher won't go through the safety glass.
>
> First, "safety glass" is said to be "safety" because it tends to hold
> together instead of shattering into shards. It's not Lexan.
>
> Second, anyone who has spent time in a wrecking yard knows things go
> through safety glass all the time.
>
> Third, those of us who are old enough remember that Jayne Mansfield's
> head went right through the safety glass.
>
> Fourth, disputing Choate about the physics of safety glass is as
> pointless as arguing with him over Gauss's Theorem, prime numbers,
> the First Amendment, the history of Europe, law, or anything else he
> has his peculiarly indisyncratic views about.
>
> Fifth, if someone is trying to throw a fire extinguisher through
> either my front window or my side windows, I'm going to defend
> myself. I expect no less from the carabinieri.
>
>
> --Tim May
>
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> --
> Timothy C. May tcmay at got.net Corralitos, California
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