A question of self-defence - Fire extinguishers & self defence

[Jim Choate]

While it's true the hole would have reduced the cushion impact of breaking
the glass it would not have eliminated it.

NATO says it takes a transfer of approx. 85 Joules to kill.

Figure out the velocity that takes for 15 lbs.. Compare to the velocity
possible in this incidence.

In addition the fact that a previous protestor had put a board through the
window only goes to demonstrate the high level of emotional disruption
these officers were exposed to. Panicking is not justification for making
a wrong decision.

Deadly force was not in any way justified.

On Mon, 23 Jul 2001, Jon Beets wrote:

> Uhhh yes it will go through the safety glass.. Look at the pics.. One person
> had already put piece of lumber through it.. That was about a 15lb
> extinguisher... From what I can tell from the photos the protester DID
> intend harm to the police. Of course none of us were there so its really
> hard to know the truth..


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