[Petro]

>Petro wrote:
>
>> Even if one assumes that the
>> G8 reps from this country are
>> directly appointed by elected
>> officials (and it's not a bet
>> I'd be willing to take), I'd
>> bet that most of the others
>> are not.
>
>Maybe yes, maybe no, but the G8 are all nominally democratic.  

	Nominally being the key word. 

> Anything to
>back up your assumption?  

	Nothing I can point to, mostly vague rememberings of stuff I'd read. 

	I may be wrong about the G8--I may have it a little confused with the WTO. It's all part of the same bullshit in my mind.  

> Anyway, democracy is just the dictatorship of the
>proletariat.  I'm against ALL dictatorships.  As I've been saying, having
>either of those sets of monkeys at Genoa having any power over me is not my
>ideal.

	I'm not arguing that. 

>
>> >No argument there, but I think
>> >the barbarians at the gate (the
>> >rioters) would be infinitely worse.
>>
>> Nah, most of them don't have guns.
>
>It was a hypothetical statement.  If the rioters were in charge they WOULD
>have the guns, by definition.  Were that the case, I think they would be
>infinitely worse.

	Well, given that the fascists we have in charge now are *relatively* rational and reading from pretty much the same playbook (meaning the are fairly well organized relatively speaking), you are probably right. With the protestors in charge we'd wind up in a war. 

>> >..."90% of EVERYTHING is crap."
>> 	Oh, and optimist.
>Yeah, I thought so too.

	I did time in Art School. It's more like 99%. 

>
>> The system, at least the part that
>> really bothers them, cannot be
>> changed.
>>
>> The laws of physics, as near a we
>> can tell are, outside of a black
>> hole, fairly impervious to change.
>
>So your beef is against physics?  Man, and I thought those rioters were
>wishful thinkers.  What's at the top of your list, gravity?  Rock on.

	It's not my beef, personally I'm a big fan of gravity. And friction. 

	It keeps my motorcycle (mostly) on the ground, and friction keeps me from sliding into cars as often. 

	Besides, without gravity wheelies wouldn't be nearly as much fun.