Petro petro at bounty.org
Mon Jul 23 00:03:30 PDT 2001


At 11:29 PM -0700 7/22/01, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
>Petro wrote:
>
>> I'd bet my wife's next paycheck that
>> at least 90% of those  bastards are
>> appointed.
>
>I wouldn't take that bet because I'm sure you are right.  However, that just
>begs the question.  Ultimately those bastards were appointed by someone who
>was elected democratically.  (Now don't hang any signs on me.  I'm not
>saying this is a "good thing" only that it still falls within the democratic
>paradigm.)

	Not really (and that's not "begging the question"). 

	Even if one assumes that the G8 reps from this country are directly appointed by elected officials (and it's not a bet I'd be willing to take), I'd bet that most of the others are not. 

	And the people who advise this Rep are even less accountable to the electorate. 

>> The problem is that we've got
>> a bunch of pansy ass fascists
>> running this country, and they
>> are willing to hand large parts
>> of our sovereignty over to a
>> committee made up mostly of
>> other fascists and socialists.
>
>No argument there, but I think the barbarians at the gate (the rioters)
>would be infinitely worse.

	Nah, most of them don't have guns. 


>> >I have so sympathy for militant
>> >ignorance when the world is awash
>> >in information about how things work.
>>
>> The problem is that *most* of the
>> information is wrong...
>
>Theodore Sturgeon once began a speech at a science fiction convention by
>saying, "90% of science fiction is crap."  After the stunned silence he
>added, "90% of EVERYTHING is crap."

	Oh, and optimist.

>Sure most of the information is wrong; so what?  That's where critical
>thinking has to come in.  The rioters are clearly on an emotional trip not
>an intellectual one.
>
>> They want to work a "fulfilling"
>> job, make 100k a year, and have
>> the government pay for their
>> retirement when they don't feel
>> like working any more.
>
>Yeah, and I want to fuck Claudia Schiffer.  If wishes were horses, beggars

	Who doesn't? 

>would ride.  The world is as it is, not as how we would wish it to be.  The
>Genoa rioters are throwing a childish tantrum.  When (if) they grow up,
>maybe they will do what is really necessary to change the system.

	The system, at least the part that really bothers them, cannot be changed. 

	The laws of physics, as near a we can tell are, outside of a black hole, fairly impervious to change. 

>
>> Come on, "global warming" is a fact.
>> We've gotten about .6 degrees warmer
>> in the last 100 years. WE HAVE TO DO
>> SOMETHING BEFORE NEW YORK IS UNDER
>> WATER.
>
>Yup, I'm buying my beachfront property in the Sierras, even as we speak.  My
>next door neighbor is Kevin Costner.  :-D

	Well, at least you have a moving target to shoot at. 





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