Calling witnesses--[On a tangent]

[David]

On a more or less off topic tangent, Do you think as far as the intelligence
and competency of these language speaking and otherwise intelligent animals,
If it was proven that they were equally or more so then ourself(the human
race), could we admitt to that fact?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray Dillinger" <bear at sonic.net>
To: "Jim Choate" <ravage at einstein.ssz.com>
Cc: <cypherpunks at einstein.ssz.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 1:18 AM
Subject: CDR: Re: Calling witnesses


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> On Tue, 3 Jul 2001, Jim Choate wrote:
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> >Can one call an animal as a witness?
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> Bloodhounds were for a long time considered admissible in cases
> involving scent tracking, and may still be in some jurisdictions --
> but I don't know whether they counted as "witnesses" or "evidence".
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> Note that courtroom procedure calls for witnesses to be sworn in,
> and unless someone could convince a judge that the animal understood
> the concept of an oath and what was being sworn, that could probably
> be used to disqualify any animal "witness".
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> Other than that though, the question is not interesting except
> in the case of language-using animals -- presently limited to apes
> and chimps trained to use sign language, and a few african Gray
> Parrots that seem to use speech in a symbolic rather than mimicking
> way.
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> (Possibly also Dolphins and Orcas, but we're not sure yet and
>  translation efforts have yielded limited results at best.)
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> I've never heard of anyone attempting to call a language-using
> animal as a witness.  When it happens, there will probably be
> a ruling.
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> Bear
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