Excuse me, Mr. Blank Frank

[Lori Banks]

Mr. Forsythe,

I couldn't agree with you more!  Thanks for your response ... I'm not sure
where anyone got the idea that I'm doing this behind my son's back, ...
because I am not ... we've discussed these issues at length .... thanks
again, Mrs. Banks

----- Original Message -----
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From: "Ralph Forsythe" <ralph at centerone.com>
To: "Lori Banks" <Lori at bornagn.com>
Cc: "Multiple recipients of list" <cypherpunks at openpgp.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: Excuse me, Mr. Blank Frank


> While I almost always refrain from posting in petty flame wars, this is
> something I feel pretty strongly about, so...
>
> First, I agree that Frank's response was most likely NOT the most
> professional or courteous response to your question.  However, you argue
> that talking is not the answer here, and I most vehemently disagree.  I
> was raised with good moral standing, and I do think I know right from
> wrong.  However I did not learn these things by being completely isolated
> from the things in the world which are damaging.
>
> Deception, filth, and dishonesty come from silence.  Open communication,
> by simple definition of the term, serves to counteract these things.
> Perhaps the answer isn't total isolation or silence, but to simply
> communicate your message differently.  I also believe that a parent's
> *number one* responsiblity in caring for their child is to protect them.
> However, what will happen when that child (no longer a child) enters the
> real world, where these things are NOT isolated from him anymore?
> Innocence only lasts as long as ignorance.  What *will* make your son
> determine right from wrong is the knowledge you provide now, today and
> tomorrow, about these things.
>
> I'm not flaming you or telling you how to raise your son, anymore than I
> would want someone telling me how to raise mine.  (FWIW I am not a parent)
> But I cannot agree that this is the right approach.  I can see religion is
> a strong force in your life.  I don't share similar beliefs personally,
> but I will fight to the death to protect someone's right to believe what
> they choose.  My suggestion is to perhaps teach your message in this
> framework, the keyword being /teach/.  communicate.  Share what you know,
> what you learned from experience in your life, with your son.  ONLY with
> that kind of open teaching and leadership will your son have the ability
> to make those moral decisions on his own.
>
> Oh -- the general feeling you received from the list regarding hacking
> your son's .pwl files come from most of us thinking it's wrong to do that.
> We all were taught, and learned, because someone took the time to share
> with us what they knew.  No one is suggesting you let your son run rampant
> through porn sites and the like, just that we've been there and know from
> personal experience that approach will accomplish nothing.
>
> Anyway, some food for thought...
>
> - Ralph Forsythe
> ralph at centerone.com
>
> On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Lori Banks wrote:
>
> > Mr. Blank Frank,
> >
> > I simply asked for your assistance -- none of your repulsive filth was
> due me.  It's people like you -- or the perception that you tried to give
> me of you that I am trying to protect my son against.  When deception,
filth,
> dishonesty, and the such as you have displayed rule this world ...
> when talking isn't the answer, a parent has the responsibilty to care for
> their child.  Perhaps you are not a parent, or you never had a parent that
> cared enough to protect -- but, I am one that will fight to the bitter end
to
> protect the innocence of my children.  I simply asked for you assistance
in
> cracking the .pwl file and your response was nothing to do with that
request.
>   If you are unable to help me, no response would have been better than
the
> one you sent.  I'm sorry that misery seems to emmanate from you -- there's
a
> Peace that can be found in Your Creator ... may He bless you today.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Mrs. Banks
> >
> > > "Lori Banks" <Lori at bornagn.com> writes:
> > > >I am a concerned parent that has stumbled upon information that is
not
> > > good >regarding my teen and the Internet.  Could you help me find out
> > > what these >passwords are or how to work that program?
> > >
> > > We have checked our records, and he is in fact running a
> > > homo-necro-bestial paedophile ring when he's not smuggling heroin for
> > > Osama.  He does not seem to be money-laundering, he gets paid in
Semtex,
> > > so chill out, bitch.  Besides, snooping is so *rude*, why don't you
just
> > > talk to him?
> >
> >
>