Microsoft Trial Judge Based His Break-Up "Remedy" On Flawed Theory, Not Facts

David Stultz ds932 at bard.edu
Tue Feb 27 21:35:04 PST 2001


> Let's not adopt this banal convention on this list. Much bandwidth is
> wasted by people arguing about invocation of Godwin's Law and
> inventing their own variants (such as May's Lemma, that more
> bandwidth is wasted....).

Whatever.  Lets not be too serious.

> If you are this easily persuaded, and come at "free speech" with such
> confusion, you have a lot of reading ahead of you. I envy you,
> actually.

Never said I was an expert.

On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Tim May wrote:

> At 11:23 PM -0500 2/27/01, David Stultz wrote:
> >  > It's worth observing that to Hitler, he made sense. (and no, I am NOT
> >>  drawing any sort of conclusion, simply saying the 'I and I' is not the
> >>  end all).
> >
> >Isn't there some sort of rule where at the first mention of "Hitler" or
> >"Nazi", it's the end of the thread? ;)
> 
> Let's not adopt this banal convention on this list. Much bandwidth is 
> wasted by people arguing about invocation of Godwin's Law and 
> inventing their own variants (such as May's Lemma, that more 
> bandwidth is wasted....).
> 
> 
> >
> >>  You're an asshole (not really, keep reading). Ridicule is political
> >>  speech and should be protected. Now my stating to another 3rd party that
> >>  you're a baby raper and as a consequence you lose your business is a
> >>  whole other situation.
> >
> >Heh.  Maybe ridicule wasn't the right word.  I can take a joke, ridicule
> >is ok.  I guess a better word would have been "unjustified slander" (OK,
> >that's two).  Satire and ridicule are good things, and are
> >protected...this is good.
> >
> >But now, I am beginning to see what you are saying.  We shouldn't blame
> >*speech* for the result of speech.  It's the *result* of said speech that
> >should be the grounds of wrongness.  Makes sense to me.
> 
> If you are this easily persuaded, and come at "free speech" with such 
> confusion, you have a lot of reading ahead of you. I envy you, 
> actually.
> 
> --Tim May
> 
> -- 
> Timothy C. May         tcmay at got.net        Corralitos, California
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