Is a Thermal Imaging search needful of a warrant?

Jim Choate ravage at EINSTEIN.ssz.com
Tue Feb 20 05:24:42 PST 2001



Diffie should stick to cryto, outside of that he's an idiot and doesn't
know of what he speaks. Hell, all those socialists at Sun seem to be idiot
savants.

If it was only a thermal imaging device involved it might fly (like a bird
can cross your property line with impunity). However, all the thermal
image device does is frequency shift the radiation to a range that IS
VISIBLE BY HUMAN EYES. It's still a human being looking at the image and
making evaluations of it.

Further, I'd like to see the definition of 'search' that is dependent upon
the mechanism, there is no such definition. 'Search' is about intent, not
method. 'Mechanism' is certainly NEVER mentioned in the 4th. Where did
this extra stricture come from? Where is it's justification?

"Why" and "How" are irrelevent in respect to a search. That one WANTS is
sufficient.

And, no. I'm no 'leftie'.

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On Tue, 20 Feb 2001 George at Orwellian.Org wrote:

> Chaos Universe wrote:
> #    Is a visible light search needful of a warrant?
> #    If so then why is the frequency of the radiation an issue?
> 
> What this list needs is another space-cadet to answer him.
> Yer one of them whacky left-handers, ain't cha?
> 
> ----
> 
> The point at which you start peering into someone's castle
> without a warrant is considered by some to be "too-far",
> and deserving of constitution claims of protection.
> 
> It's no longer a human peering in, it's a cyborg.
> 
> A Thermal Imaging search of a home without a warrant
> is a technological attack on privacy.
> 
>     Whitfield Diffie, Distinguished Engineer---Security at Sun Microsystems:
> 
>     "An essential element of freedom is the right to privacy, a right that
>     cannot be expected to stand against an unremitting technological attack."
> 
> Therefore the issue of frequency is an issue.
> 
>     What's the frequency, Jimmy?
> 





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