[Sovereignty v. global justice [was... Mohammed gets Miranda]]

LUIS VILDOSOLA lvild at usa.net
Mon Feb 19 16:12:01 PST 2001


Before you can judge an act to be a crime against humanity.
I'd like to know what acts can be identified as crime,
where is humanity and how are both these ideas brought together.

This is not to question the merit of such an enterprise but to
question the means of it's corruption.


"Aimee Farr" <aimee.farr at pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> [I refrained from posting yab, but Declan's latest Politech "FC: U.N. hopes
> to shut down accused Rwandan journalist's web site" gigged me.]
> 
> Phillip H Zakas said:
> 
> > hmm.  does this mean le/intelligence agencies will soon need to have a
> > warrant to perform wiretaps on overseas communications?  And if
> > no warrant,
> > can collected evidence eventually be disallowed if foreign suspects are
> > brought to us courts?  slippery slope.
> 
> Or, no slope ... according to some people's opinions of the International
> Criminal Court. Many say we will be yielding our sovereignty, our
> Constitution, and our procedural protections to this Court. (ICC advocates,
> on the other hand, are quick to point out concord between the ICC and the
US
> Constitution: http://www.wfa.org/issues/icc/usconst.html .)
> 
> The ICC is an international court, judging _individuals_, not
nation-states,
> in regard to:
> "the crime of genocide; crimes against humanity; war crimes; and the crime
> of aggression." Many have expressed concern over subsequent extensions of
> the Court's subject matter jurisdiction.  One commentator stated that even
> if a nation is not a party to the Rome Statute, the ICC can still
> investigate a crime within that nation according to ICC rules. [I haven't
> read all the documentation, and I'm not about to, so I can't say about such
> nuances....]
> 
> Yet another ill wind for criminal nation-states, sheltering sovereigns, and
> putative techrepublics.
> 
> 	A:mee
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