How do you sleep?,

Jim Choate ravage at einstein.ssz.com
Thu Dec 13 20:55:01 PST 2001



On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, mattd wrote:

> have to choose soon between use of the words anarchy and punk and some 

punk <> anarchy

'punk' actually means 'anti-establishment' and 'activist' in viewpoint.
anti-establishment/activist <> anarchy either.

The black leather and anarchy crap didn't 'happen' on the punk scene until
the late 70's and early 80's. In particular the club scene in England
(those crazy Brits and their unemployment, crank & horse).

When punk really took off (it began in the 60's w/ folks like Iggy Pop
and the Stooges) in the early 70's (New York Dolls, Germs, etc.) it was a
direct result of the crappy music (if only every Grease soundtrack would
self-implode...here's hoping). It was intended to be a return to the
'roots' of rock and roll and to attempt to escape from the large record
companies and their contracts. It fathered the current 'indy' music scene.

It's also interesting that this is when the 'industrial' music genre began
with bands like Throbbing Gristle (ie Genesis P. Orridge) and Einsturzende
Neubauten (Go Blixa!!! - You can't build without destroying). At one point
P. Orridge was looking to engineer/produce Suzie and the Banshee's first
album, Billy Idol told here to stay away from those crazies...

Kids...

"Those who don't understand history are doomed to repeat it."

                                  George Santyana

"The mouth is the wound of the alphabet. My screams turn back. To lick the
 wound..."

                                          "Blutvergiftung"
                                          (Sung backwards)
                                          Einsterzende Neubauten

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