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[Sunder]

That's not coercion you moron, that's progress.

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On Sun, 9 Dec 2001, Jim Choate wrote:

> On Thu, 6 Dec 2001, David Honig wrote:
> 
> > At 08:03 PM 12/6/01 +1100, mattd wrote:
> > >Coercion is implicit in all capitalism above low level market and 
> > >trade
> > 
> > Joe the nailmaker invests in a machine to make nails faster
> > than he can by hand.  Who has he coerced?
> 
> The market. He threatens the other nail producers and forces them to
> respond. That is coercion (just psychological and economic instead of
> physical force).
> 
> Coercion isn't bad (consider discounts based on reputation), it's why and
> how that matters.
> 
> Right back to the end doesn't justify the means, again.