Further thoughts on Reputation Capital systems and implementation

Adam Shostack adam at homeport.org
Thu Dec 6 11:23:23 PST 2001


PS: Raph is the one who later created avogato, with a simpler
reputation system.  I can't recall if he talks about these schemes in
his writings on reputation.

Adam

On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 11:38:53AM -0500, Sunder wrote:
| 
| Thanks for the pointer, a very good essay indeed. :)
| 
| I haven't checked in any meaningful way, but that thread doesn't seem to
| have any replies from Ralph...  Do you recall any details as to what would
| cause oscillations?  Would be interesting to explore this.
| 
| I expect that having a way to prove collusion by checking who praises
| whom, etc. would likely avoid such problems.  As would I suppose personal
| observation of current behavior.
| 
| Say for instance Mr. Measels manages to accumulate quite a large sum of
| positive repcap, if he spews a bunch of the lame ass CJ knockoff messages,
| I suspect most people would adjust their cached repcap's of him pretty
| quickly - At least I would.  (CJ did/does write kooky messages, but at
| least they're funny...)
| 
| 
| ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos---------------------------
|  + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\
|   \|/  :aren't security.  A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\
| <--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you   \/|\/
|   /|\  :masked killer, but  |don't email them, or put them on a web  \|/
|  + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often.
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| 
| On Sat, 1 Dec 2001, Adam Shostack wrote:
| 
| > On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 05:00:33PM -0500, Sunder wrote:
| > | 
| > | Say Tim has a repcap of 600, say Declan has 500, and Sandy has 400.  Then
| > | I add +1 * 500/X from Declan's repcap and +1 *400/X to Tim's repcap, so
| > | now my cache of Tim's repcap might jump to 620.
| > 
| > Interesting idea.  I proposed something very similar in
| > http://cypherpunks.venona.com/date/1994/09/msg00313.html Raph
| > demonstrated a bit later that the system could be forced into
| > oscilation and had other problems, although that might have been in
| > person, not on list.
| > 
| > Adam
| > 
| > -- 
| > Imminent death of the list predicted.  Film already in the
| > archives, 11/95. 
| > 
| > 
| > 
| > 

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