food fo thought

mmotyka at lsil.com mmotyka at lsil.com
Wed Aug 15 13:19:45 PDT 2001


georgemw at speakeasy.net wrote :
>On 14 Aug 2001, at 17:34, Gabriel Rocha wrote:
>> Taming the Web 
>> By Charles C. Mann September 2001  
>>    
>> "Information wants to be free." "The Internet can't be controlled."
>> We've heard it so often that we sometimes take for granted that it's
>> true. But THE INTERNET CAN BE CONTROLLED, and those who argue otherwise
>> are hastening the day when it will be controlled too much, by the wrong
>> people, and for the wrong reasons. 
>> 
>I think we've all seen this type of argument before.
>Interestingly enough,  the article offers no support whatsoever for
>any part of this other than the "the internet can be controlled" part.
>What dire consequences will come from circumventing bad laws
>is never addressed in this type of article,  at least not in
>any that I've read.  And with good reason: congress has already 
>conclusively demenostrated that they do not have the wisdom and 
>knowledge to make good laws for cyberspace,  no way,  no how.
>
>So let's just take a look at the arguments for the assertion that
>"the internet can be controlled". 
>
>The form argument
>seems to be listing "myths" followed by "refutation by anecdote".  I
>find this a particularly unpersuasive form of argument.  I'll go into a 
>little more dtail,  probably more than is actually merited.
>
>"Myth #1: The internet is too international to be controlled".
>Refuting anecdote: Swapnet is allegedly based in St. Kitts and 
>Nevis,  non-signatories to the WIPO.  However,  because of limited 
>bandwidth going to the carribean island,  their big servers  are 
>actually situated in Virginia. 
>
>I'm unimpressed.  as the article points out,  access to the islands is
>being upgraded,  and besides, even a relatively slow connection to
>an uncensorable site can be extremely useful.  For example, you 
>could have your legally secure slow connection have pointers
>to the location of files rather than the files themselves.
>
>"Myth #2: The Net is too Interconnected to Control"
>Refuting Anectdote: Gnutella doesn't scale well,  with Bearshare
>the "peers" aren't really equal,  and Freenet is unsearchable.
>
>The "point" here is that the majority of lusers still have dialup
>connections,  and are in no position to offer useful services,
>even if they were willing to.
>
>First off,  the number of people with persistent,  higher speed 
>connections is rapidly increasing and second,  this ain't a 
>democracy.  It may be true that you would "only" have to shut 
>down 5-10% or so of Bearshare's clients to make the remaining
>network virtually useless,  but I think that's still an enormous 
>number of machines.
>
>"Myth #3: The net is too filled with Hackers to control"
>Refuting Assertion: You can build controls into the hardware,
>and that can't be hacked.
>
>Well,  maybe,  but that requires people to go out and buy
>their own straightjackets. 
>
>Also,  it's importnat to remember that information isn't hardware,  
>it's bits.  It just takes one person to post a "cracked" file 
>somewhere,
>and then it doesn't matter whether the attempts to restrict
>copying are implemented in hardware or software,  because the
>file is no longer recognized as being copy protected. 
>  
>I could rant on,  but all this is really only addressing what I 
>consider to be the minor assertion,  which is that "you'e going
>to lose sooner or later,  so you might as well give up."
>
>The more important assertiion (IMO) is that "the sooner you give 
>up,  the better it'll go for you".  I haven't seen any support at all
>offered for this position,  and I think the only appropriate reply
>to it is,  "Bullshit".
>
>George  
>
One mistake the author makes is that he seems to think that there are
only anarchist hackers out there who should forget the hacking thing and
become lobbyists. There are already people doing that work who are
probably better at it than 99/100 hackers. There may be a need for more
people and resources to lobby for rational laws but the space is not
empty.

Another mistake is in lumping the private uses of the net in with the
commercial. I doubt that the personal uses can ever be fully subjugated
to commercial needs. However, I think it's pretty clear that a great
deal more could be controlled and punished than is currently. It'll be
like the drug war : the first 2% or so costs USD25B to get off the
streets. What will the last 2% cost? USD25B? Not likely. Draw the $ vs.
%control curve. The entire US GNP is not enough.

Is the article Total Bullshit? No, but I'd put on my Wellies.

Mike

Anyone have any strong opinions on laptops as far as reliability and
Linux-friendliness? I like HP and Toshiba at this point.





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