Laws of mathematics, not of men

[Declan McCullagh]

It may well be irresponsible for Tim to talk about his probable
responses to a situation when unidentified black ninjas invade his
home. The reason it is arguably irresponsible is that Tim is endangering
his safety. But he knows that.

Talking about alleged victimless crimes allegedly committed by list
members is irresponsible.* The reason it is arguably irresponsible is
that you are endangering someone else's safety. Big difference.

-Declan

* = As differentiated from victumful crimes. For instance, if someone
steals Sandy's car or Tim's motorcycle from a cypherpunks meeting, nobody
would raise eyebrows if they call the cops.


On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 11:05:41AM -0700, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
> Tim May wrote:
> 
> > It is utterly irresponsible for
> > you to discuss this on a list
> > frequented by narcs and informants
> > and even prosecutors.
> 
> No Tim, what is utterly irresponsible is to make bellicose threats on this
> list about what your response will be if masked ninjas invade your home.  If
> they end up shooting you (and I think their is a significant likelihood that
> they will), it will be in large part because of your macho siege mentality.
> 
> > Unbelievable behavior, narcing out
> > a fellow list member. Sandy should
> > be ashamed.
> 
> I "narced out" your behavior of several years ago.  If you are stupid enough
> to still be carrying a knife illegally (when there are plenty of legal
> options), then there is no helping you.  On your head be it.
> 
> > The prosecutors who read this list
> > must be chortling.
> 
> More likely they are saying, "Ah fuck, I wish we'd known that before
> Sandfort wised Tim up.  Now we'll just have to go with plan B and shoot him
> when we raid his house with a trumped up search warrant."
> 
> And like Vinnie told you, the ones they send after you will be a LOT better
> than he is.