Seth Finkelstein, reluctant cypherpunk?

[Sandy Sandfort]

Jim most certainly did miss my point.  I said, in essence, that we are doing
the anti-privacy crowd's a service when we argue among ourselves.  Jim's
still arguing left vs. right vs. libertarian vs. whatever.  Get with the
program, Jim.


 S a n d y

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim Choate [mailto:ravage at ssz.com]
> Sent: 03 April, 2001 20:45
> To: Sandy Sandfort
> Cc: cypherpunks at einstein.ssz.com
> Subject: RE: Seth Finkelstein, reluctant cypherpunk?
>
>
>
> I didn't miss any point. I simply rebutted a one-sided statement.
>
> I'm a 'democratist' I believe the ONLY way a society will ever survive is
> to develop a sense of 'acceptance' and 'tolerance' for alternate views. I
> also, in contrast to crypto-anarchist and libertarians, don't believe
> 'money' or 'wealth' has a damn thing to do with that.
>
> It's an interesting observation about many cypherpunks that they want open
> technology in every venue EXCEPT legal and medical. Directly contrary to
> 'life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness' and most especially contrary
> to 'equal protection under the law' or the basic goal of civilization and
> law - self-defence.
>
> Too many people want to use it to coerce, Libertarians being no exception.
>
> If that, in your or Declans view, makes me a 'non-cypherpunk' then the
> failing is not mine but rather yours.
>
> On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Sandy Sandfort wrote:
>
> > Declan and Jim both seemed to have missed the point about
> Cypherpunks.  I've
> > attended physical meetings, off and on, since meeting #2 or #3
> in the Bay
> > Area.
> >
> > I'm not uncomfortable being called--or calling myself--a
> libertarian, but
> > one of the first things that the meetings revealed was that we
> had attendees
> > from all corners of the political arena.  And as a result, we
> soon saw that
> > nothing would ever get discussed--much less done--if we focused on our
> > political DIFFERENCES instead of our community of interest.
>
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