CDR: Re: would it be so much to ask..

[petro]

>    The Solidaros movement was a democratic movement where they
>    wanted to impliment a government that had representation and guaranteed
>    civil rights (I don't know exactly how far along they've come). But at no
>    point was their goal the continued management of speech, work, income,
>    etc. through a central government mechanism.
>
>That was precisely my point: socialism doesn't necessarily mean centralised
>statism, wage controls or limited speech. Its roots are in democratic

	Socialism *always* means that the same people in a society 
who control the use of force also have control over the economic 
structure.

>    BAD comparison. The Fortune 500's can't kill me and they can't throw me in
>    jail for not buying their products or participating in their programs.
>
>Well, they might pollute you to death, but they haven't got firing squads. In

	They don't have firing squads *YET*.
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