CDR: Re: would it be so much to ask..

[Jim Choate]

On Thu, 21 Sep 2000, Tiarnan O Corrain wrote:

> I wouldn't necessarily agree with the definition, but I acknowledge that
> it seems to fit with the Soviet Union/Eastern Bloc during the Cold War. However,
> the Solidarity movement, instrumental in bringing down the Polish tyranny,
> was also a form of socialism.

I didn't invent the definition. The 'socialist' did.

Not really. The Solidaros movement was a democratic movement where they
wanted to impliment a government that had representation and guaranteed
civil rights (I don't know exactly how far along they've come). But at no
point was their goal the continued management of speech, work, income,
etc. through a central government mechanism.

> and control over resources were highly centralised (USSR: nomenklatura,
> US: Fortune 500, two-party system) used diametrically opposed political vocabularies to

BAD comparison. The Fortune 500's can't kill me and they can't throw me in
jail for not buying their products or participating in their programs. I
further have the right to tell them to fuck off (equivalent to secession).

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