CDR: Re: And you thought Nazi agitprop was controversial?

[Jodi Hoffman]

You are wrong to protect them without knowing what they're about, Jay.  
Their motto is, "Sex before eight, or it's too late."  They are 
referring to grown men having sex with an under-eight year old little 
boy.  Surely you don't mean to suggest that a website promoting 
intercourse with a little boy should be protected speech, do you?

Jay Holovacs wrote:
> 
> You miss the point...  I have never read their site, I do not intend to.
> That is immaterial.
> 
> I am addressing the other issue, that your crowd too is protected by free
> speech rights even though there are plenty who would like to hold you
> responsible for crime against gays and abortion providers.
> 
> jay
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jodi Hoffman <jlhoffm at attglobal.net>
> To: Jay Holovacs <holovacs at idt.net>
> Cc: Lizard <lizard at mrlizard.com>; Declan McCullagh <declan at well.com>;
> <fight-censorship at vorlon.mit.edu>; <cypherpunks at cyberpass.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 11:45 AM
> Subject: Re: And you thought Nazi agitprop was controversial?
> 
> > Jay Holovacs wrote:
> > >
> > > You really don't seem to get it, defending the right to speech is NOT
> the
> > > same as defending the content (though I understand that nowhere do they
> > > advocate violence to children)
> >
> >
> > Oh, please.  Anal sex with an eight year old child is not violent?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Remember, Jodi, the *same* law that should be protecting their speech
> > > protects you and your allies from being prosecuted each time a gay is
> > > murdered or an abortion clinic bombed.
> > >
> > > jay
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Jodi Hoffman <jlhoffm at attglobal.net>
> > > To: Lizard <lizard at mrlizard.com>
> > > Cc: Declan McCullagh <declan at well.com>;
> <fight-censorship at vorlon.mit.edu>;
> > > <cypherpunks at cyberpass.net>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 10:56 AM
> > > Subject: Re: And you thought Nazi agitprop was controversial?
> > > >
> > > > Ah, the Lizard slinks to the support of child rapists and
> > > > murderers.  Don't sacrifice my child on the altar of the First
> > > > Amendment, Liz.  I'm sure if it were your son, you would feel
> > > > differently.
> >
> > --
> > "He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself
> > the accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy
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> >
> > Jodi Hoffman   R.A.M.P.  http://www.gocin.com/ramp
> > Victimization of Children/Research & Education Council of America
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> >

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"He who does not bellow the truth when he knows the truth makes himself
the accomplice of liars and forgers." - Charles Peguy
R.A.M.P.-Restore America’s Moral Pride

Jodi Hoffman   R.A.M.P.  http://www.gocin.com/ramp    
Victimization of Children/Research & Education Council of America
2805 E. OAKLAND PARK BLVD., SUITE 122  FORT LAUDERDALE, FLORIDA 33306
TELEPHONE (954) 567-0698  TeleFax (954) 630-2280