CDR: Re: Check this out: http://www.antivore.com

[sunder]

>From the quick scan of their pages, what I'd gathered was that you'd
run your own antivore server, or "you" as in your company would run
one of these before you reach the ISP layer.

Me wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "sunder" <sunder at sunder.net>
> > http://www.antivore.com
> 
> Easy-as-pie carnivore defeating email encryption?
> 
> "
> How does Antivore work?
> 
> Antivore is a special application which sits between the user and
> their mail server. 

This says the meat of it.  So you don't send cleartext to your ISP, you send clear text to the antivore box in your company/home
office, which in turns encrypts your email for you, and sends it out via your ISP.

For the Feds to gain access to your emails, they'd have to install the carnivore box between you and the antivore box.

So basically the concept is the same as running your own proxy web server to filter out banner ads, but instead you use it for email
and it encrypts emails.

Yes, the faq says something really stupid - which is to ask your ISP to run antivore for you. Presumably this is because most users
are morons, and in this case, it won't help at all but to instill a false sense of security.

The way I see this: As always, this is a crutch for the lazy who don't want to put up with the cut/paste/enter passphrase hasles of
using PGP for non-integrated clients.

It's being pushed in the wrong direction for sure.

> The application is server-based which means
> that as an individual you need to contact your IT department or
> your ISP to request the encryption services that Antivore can
> offer.
> "
> 
> So I send my cleartext email to my ISP... who has been served
> with a search warrant and a small black box... and they will
> encrypt it, and then forward the cyphertext through their mail
> server and THEN through the carnivore box?
> 
> I hope the FBI special agent assigned to my ISP was hired under
> some sort of affirmative action programme.


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