CDR: Correction Re: Katz /. piece on improving "political technology"

[Jim Choate]

Doh!

Make that Dixon, not Drexler. That's what I get for mixing my drugs.

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On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, Jim Choate wrote:

> 
> On Tue, 14 Nov 2000, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
> 
> > of attitude adjustment. After all we sell votes in corporations all the
> > time, and, sooner or later, we're going to treat our force-control
> > structures as non-monopolistic businesses instead of monopolistic
> > nation-states.
> 
> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Unfortunately Katz'a and your crypto-anarchy-economic 
> understanding and predictions are based in 18'th/19'th/20'th century
> concepts and views. They unfortunately bear little resemblence to the
> motivation of those actualy living the event.
> 
> Actualy it won't. When the society gets to this level it no longer needs
> such structures. The individual controls enough resources directly that
> such assaults, while devastating to the target, will render the attacker
> in an equaly sorry state. The quantity and types of controlled resources
> are also sufficient to elleviate the 'homeland' motivation. Nation states
> won't exist in that sort of environment either, for the same sorts of
> reasons. There will be giant manufacturing firms for hardware.
> 
> This won't of course come to pass until mankind is well off this mudball.
> There simply aren't enough resources on a sigle planet to support even a
> small group of such technologist for more than a few years. Certainly not
> the 100's of Billions such a society will require.
> 
> Consider Kurzweill's predictions of the last few days for example. With
> such a technology many of the current business and social institutions
> become questionable at best. In a very real sense the concept of
> 'business' and 'profit' become problematic but let's not upset anyone too
> badly to start.
> 
> The singular aspect of the crypto-anarcy view that is most laughable is
> that almost everyone runs around thinking the world will be the same,
> there just won't be taxes or cops/soldiers. How naive. 99% of the current
> social meme's in your head are obsolete today, almost all of them will be
> worthless 50 to 100 years from now when this sort of potential really
> begins to arrive. With the taxes and cops demise will go the vast majority
> of day to day trappings you're familiar with. Look around, are you willing
> to give this ALL(!!!) up? It isn't pick and choose.
> 
> Autarch is NOT anarchy and they're not 1-to-1 mappable in axioms.
> 
> If you want this utopian vision (it will have it's own crosses to bear, be
> warned) as soon as possible then put every iota of energy into getting
> mankind off this mudball permanently.
> 
> Consider the impact of current neurological research into human cognition,
> fundamental limits to capacity are being found. Without biotechnologies
> ability to address this many of tomorrows problems won't get resolved and
> this utopia won't happen (can you say "bye bye dino"?). The current
> religious, social (incl. religious), and economic institutions can't
> survive in a world of such morphed humans who live 200 years. I can
> suggest "Man after Man" by K. Drexler.
> 
> The reality is that while most of us will reap the benefits of life
> extension we'll be locked out of the majority of future human development
> because we were born too early to genengineered in the womb. Respected and
> pitied at the same time.
> 
> Unless of course the human mind isn't an artifact of the ghost in the
> machine and really is just a machine. In that case transfer into a 'new'
> body would be possible. My guess is this is about 200 years off. The odds
> are that about 50% of those people reading this who don't die in the next
> 20 years will live to see it.
> 
> Where's your fucking stock market in that sort of world? It isn't. The
> technology is so pervasive and 'open source' while the pockets of humanity
> are so wide spread that such entities can't exist.
> 
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> 
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