CDR: Re: AT&T signs bulk hosting contract with spammers
Jim Choate
ravage at ssz.com
Mon Nov 6 14:49:06 PST 2000
On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, Tom Vogt wrote:
> Jim Choate wrote:
> > > but on the other hand, we *do* want to keep cracking legal (at least to
> > > some extend) because otherwise what is left of security in cyberspace
> > > will quickly vanish into oblivion, right?
> >
> > What security? I've never had or made any claims that cyberspace was
> > secure. Even in its nascent days.
>
> you're right. that's why I said "what's left of it".
But if it wasn't ever there how can there be any left of it?
> > Are you possibly confusing 'privacy' (which has the same issue) and
> > 'security'?
>
> no. the argument is: if you make probing illegal, we'll see even more
> (and *much* more) "security through obscurity" - because figuring out
> that this crap is insecure will land you in jail.
Going to jail won't stop anyone from figuring it out if that's what they
want. I would be so bold as to suggest that if they make it illegal then
you'll see a significant rise in the behaviour, along with increased use
of anonymous remailers and Open Source software than can be kludged.
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