I just noticed that Tim has his own Geek Code category: "y+++ I am T.C. May" http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~hayden/.codes/geek3.1.html Congratulations! --Lucky Green <shamrock at netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. Put a stake through the heart of DES! Join the quest at http://www.frii.com/~rcv/deschall.htm