Steak Knife Decryption (fwd)

Igor Chudov @ home ichudov at Algebra.COM
Mon Jun 9 16:51:38 PDT 1997



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> Subject:       Re: Steak Knife Decryption
> To:            mpd at netcom.com (Mike Duvos)
> Date:          Sat, 7 Jun 1997 00:44:15 -0500 (CDT)
> Cc:            cypherpunks at cyberpass.net
> From:          ichudov at algebra.com (Igor Chudov @ home)
> Organization:  Bool Sheet Software
> Reply-to:      ichudov at algebra.com (Igor Chudov @ home)

> Mike Duvos wrote:
> > 

> I am not quite clear if rational people can get something out of
> torturing other rational people. Maybe, I am confused and wrong
> somewhere.
> 	- Igor.

Torture is a means of producing an irrational state in people's
minds (at least temporarily), thus causing them to do things they
would not rationally do (sign a prepared confession, reveal a secret, 
etc) If torture could not do this, it would not be used; verbal
persuasion over tea and crumpets is *so* much more pleasant.

Even people who might be able to face a more or less painless 
death with equanimity (in the pursuit of some greater cause) 
may break down as the bamboo splints are pushed under their 
fingernails.

'Rational torture victim' is an oxymoron.

Peter Trei
trei at process.com

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